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Mark Shapiro of Huntington Beach, California is one of the worlds largest collectors of L. Frank Baum memorabilia including over 330 first edition and first state books. First state books are extremely rare for they are the first books off the press during a first edition press run and they are hard to find. A first state book is one that has mistakes before the printer notices them and then makes the changes thus making a first edition a second state.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, written in 1899, is on abebooks.com and bookfinder.com and is priced at $100,000 thus being one of the most valued books. L Frank Baum, the author, is acknowledged as one of Americas best children book authors having written well over 75 books , of which a total of 14 was written for the Oz series alone. Baum, born in 1856, didn't write the book until in his forties and he died in 1919 and is buried in forest lawn, glendale, California.

Shapiros collection has been featured in orange county reigster newspaper and thorughout the country and also his collection has been featured at Freemans Auction House in philadelphia and also in PBA galleries in San Francisco, two prestigious auction houses. He also has been a featured speaker to various groups and recently was the featured speaker on Oz materials at the 2007 College of Appraisers Collectors Conference IV, held in Los Angeles. There is countless wizard of oz clubs throughout America and the world and they meet regularly at various locations yearly.

Shapiros first find was at a flea market where he found a Wonderful Wizard of Oz book, first edtition, second state for fifty cents. The book now is worth over $35,000 being a second state.

His collection has also been featured in the Orange County Home Magazine which is the largest in the area with a paid circulation of over 85,000.

Various universities do have L. Frank Baum collections but none as extensive as Shapiros. www.gazette.com/display.php?id=1328243

www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/local/amread/article_1374714.php - 64k www.mctdirect.com/topics/topical_books.htm?s=krtbook%26page=2 - 46k


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Saturday, September 18, 2010Meet the Wizard, Part II

Guest Blogger Mark Shapiro


My introduction into the world of the Wonderful Wizard of Oz and L. Frank Baum began at the Long Beach swap meet in Long Beach, California when I came across a young couple selling artifacts they had found in their grandfather’s attic.

I had never seen the Wonderful Wizard of Oz book, nor knew of L. Frank Baum despite having a Masters in Journalism and having been a teacher up to that point. I walked by the book and then it struck me to go back to ask how much the book was going for. The young man said one dollar and, this being a swap meet where bartering is common, I said I would take it for fifty cents. A deal was struck.

Four months later as I was going to visit my wife’s parents in Spokane, Washington, I saw in the airplane magazine an article on L. Frank Baum and the Wonderful Wizard of Oz. The article stated that the book was worth $10,000 and, to my astonishment,a it was like having the spirit of L. Frank Baum invade my soul.

From that point on, I dedicated my life to researching and finding anything Baum. Like all collectors, I made many mistakes in purchasing books I thought were first edition and first state until i purchased the Bibliographia Oziana by Greene,Hanff,Martin,Haff and Greene. I then spent six months digesting this information which has led me to accumulate over 450 L. Frank Baum and William Denslow books (Denslow being the illustrator on the Wonderful Wizard of Oz). I have spent the past 38 years coming across the books and other items related to Oziana through swap meets, eBay, auctions and private parties.

The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, Chicago and New York: Geo.M.Hill Co, 1900, 261 pages, had an initial printing of only 10,000 copies of which approximately a third were first state and, of those, approximately 2,000 were in the B binding. On the book’s spine, the first state, and rarest of this book, has the “O” outside the “C” to spell the abreviation “co” following Geo. M. Hill - whereas the second state binding has the “O” inside the larger letter “C.”

14 of the more than 450 books in Mark's collection
Lyman Frank Baum (15 May 1856 - 6 May 1919) was an American author of children's books best known for writing The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. He wrote thirteen novel sequels, nine other fantasy novels, and a host of other works (55 novels in total, plus four "lost" novels, 82 short stories, over 200 poems, and an unknown number of scripts, and many miscellaneous writings.) The highest priced Wonderful Wizard of Oz in second state, and second state binding, with an inscription by Baum went for $152,500 at Christies Auction House in 2002.


I have never sold any of his books, for they are the children I never had. The Smithsonian Library in Washington is interested in housing my collection for posterity one day.

Freda and Mark Shapiro
Having been written up in various magazines and newspapers throughout the country and in dedicating my blog, WizardofBaum, to everything Oz and beyond, I feel the spirit of L. Frank Baum in me to help keep him alive in an ever changing world. I have been a guest speaker at many conventions and it gives me inner warmth to share not only the world of L. Frank Baum but also the overall wonderment of books in general. My dear departed mom, Freda Shapiro , molded me into the collector I am by taking me to museums, book stores and libraries throughout my childhood.




(Thanks again, Mark, for sharing your collection with Book Chase readers.)
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WIZARDOFBAUM MOVIE REVIEWS

Loved it but wait a second.. Topic Comments Avatar
krus is right,,absolutely,, again, this movie is for the mindless and legions of followers of stupid ibox games. 2 Days ago by wizardofbaum




ANOTHER CALVARY TAKES INDIANS LAND FOR GOLD. Topic Comments Avatar
I went to see this in the show with 3d glasses (costs three more dollars) and almost left ten times. 2 Days ago by wizardofbaum




LOL. Topic Comments Robin Williams: Weapons Of Self Destruction
sure thing, so was adolph hitler. 4 Days ago by wizardofbaum




I DIDNT LAUGH ONCE. Topic Comments Robin Williams: Weapons Of Self Destruction
When robin williams was on drugs doing comedy he was boring and hyper and if he is still on drugs,, he is still boring and hyper.His humor is gross and not funny with the usal sex and drugs formula. 4 Days ago by wizardofbaum




300 MILLION DOLLAR TITANIC SINKS. Topic Comments Avatar
Again the public is sucked in to what I consider the biggest waste of my life.Beware, this is far from what this idiot on the Los Angeles Times states is the remaking of movies. 4 Days ago by wizardofbaum

AVATAR MOVIE REVIEW ON WIZARDOFBAUM

Cameron made a hi-tech Western, in outer space, like Dances with Wolves. The hero 'goes native' like Costner, the natives have blue skin not red, are naked & noble savages that talk to 'mother earth' and have magic powers, they need his protection to continue living in their cartoonish Garden of Eden, etc.

And, like Dances, the roles are reversed. The US Cavalry is now the flying Blackwater mercenaries and they are antagonists, not protagonists. The victims are not white women and children in a wagon train, but the backwards & childlike Navi, with blue skin, in their magic forest.

Don't forget the PC casting. Overdone female empowerment efforts: like the chain smoking, pushy, scientist leader Sigorney Weaver, the tough-girl Hispanic helicopter pilot who breaks them out of prison and the Navi spiritual leader/queen. Not all white men are bad people (except for the hero), but all bad people are white men, usually pale, muscular & N Euro. All good people, except the hero, are non-white men, and he gets a body transplant!

The visual effects were great & the story was average. Maybe 3D will be better.

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Watched it for free on the internet. Been watching and reading SciFi for 50 years. Gland I did not pay to see it.

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marjoies comment said it best,, no story line and seen a zillion times with the calvary taking over the indians land for gold,, etc...those who want to see special effects, spend your money on a face lift for this movie sags for close to three hours of total torture. The 3d effect has been around for centuries and never will carry a blah story line. This movie is as stale as the popcorn you buy in the show for five dollars and only ones who will like this will be the humpty dumptys of this world, which are the majority anyway. Movies such as the pianist, boy in striped pajamas, the nail;story of joey nardone and many many others are far better than this hokey story said so many times,, only difference is that avatar has the indians running around in blue suits with bows and arrows.Save your money and shop at wal mart for fresh popcorn.

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I never quite understood the Avater trailer when I first saw it few months ago. Thus my interest in the movie was limited. I was actually forced by my husband to go and see it yesterday. What did I think at the end? I fell in love with the movie, it is one of the best I have seen this year- may be in the last few years. I was in tears at the end of the movie, and could not stop crying for the next ten minutes. As Mr Kenneth Turan writes in his critic, I realized afterwards that I was caring for an alien character. I can not wait to see Avatar again in 3D

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It's worth the money to see it, even if the story line is so predictable. You know exactly what's going to happen to each character within the first 15 minutes of the film. Very disappointing. I think Cameron wants you to be immersed in this world, but with such a poor script/dialogue and tired, "done-a-million-times-over" storyline, you just can get there. The only thing meant to be remembered in this film are the special effects and not much else.

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Avatar was an amazing experience. James Cameron has clearly taken a lot of care to create something special that everyone can enjoy. In this economy, a night at the movies for a family is a luxury. I%u2019m very appreciative that Avatar delivered. We all loved it.

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I saw "Avatar" yesterday and can't get the imagery out of my head. This film is setting a new standard for this genre of movie. It is so well done that you actually find yourself taking the reality created by filmmaker for granted as you watch it. The lighting, the skin textures, the dynamic body language of the characters and unusualness of the creatures are simply taken as they are, with no internalized reminders that you're watching special effects. This is a new kind of filmmaking that will change the way we react to movies. Despite the overwhelming imagery and action of this unbelievably colorful production, you stop looking at the aliens as being aliens. They are fully dimensionalized characters with all the subtle facial nuances of living beings. Not actors. Beings. "Avatar" will take your resistance to suspension of disbelief and drag it into the story. I've had a lot of different kinds of cinematic experiences over the last 50 years, but this one has been the most memorable. This is more than a story being told by the filmmaker. It is a total immersion of the audience into the world he has imagined to an extent that it has never been done before.

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After seeing AVATAR 3D and enjoying it immensely with my wife, part of the story reminded me of what happened between Magellan and Lapu-Lapu in the Philippines.

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those who state that content doesnt mean anything and only indulge in what they call aesthetics, clearly show what their mentality is,, they probably are same ones who sit in front of a video game all day and waste their lives away...clearly, the story line is a joke and again, same story line with the calvary taking over the indians land for gold,,, even in this mess, the aliens have bows and arrows fighting bombs...what a mess but frankly, the masses do like this and obviously thought star wars was amazing ... again, go see the boy in the striped pajamas and even the nail, story of joey nardone ... both movies for people with brains.

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Most of the cynical high and mighty commenters here have almost certainly not even seen the movie. If you think you can do better after seeing it by all means step up to the plate and show us what you can do.

uh-huh1254 (12/20/2009, 9:49 AM )

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For those complaining about style over substance, walk around the national gallery of art - Rembrandt and most of the other famous painters painted people sitting in chairs or rather pedestrian scenes that you could see on any Sunday drive. There is definite value in artistry no matter how banal the subject. Regardless of storyline, acting, or script, a movie - just like a Rembrandt - can still be a monumental accomplishment based on asthetics alone.

For ridiculous posters like WIZOFBEACH who says "Again the public is sucked in to what I consider the biggest waste of my life." What can you say in response to such absurd hyperbole. Maybe he has mental problems. Better to take that kind of hysterical drivel to youtube or somewhere.

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rdeshazo7 (12/19/2009, 2:55 PM )notice his comments about my style of writing when he cant even put a clear sentence together.Even this guy admits that he prefers special effects over a story line which tells me his level of education proboably was no more than eighth grade. Nobody has to spend 300 million to cover up for a horrible story line as this farce is. This movie has no redeeming value and is clearly aimed at kids for games, mcdonalds and you name it will jump on the band wagon to do what this movie was intended for in the first place..called making money and greed and nothing more. No more than the star wars of years past did and certainly, star wars was never a movie of any redeeming value but the same shoot em up with bad guy and good guy over used story line such as this mess.

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AVATAR is an extraordinary film on so many levels. Clearly, technically, it is a watershed. But the eco-spirituality it explores in narrative and theme draws on many religious and cinematic mythologies. Critics have remarked on such antecedents as DANCES WITH WOLVES. Perhaps it is even more indebted to the nature religion, tone and landscapes explored in the animated films of Hayao Miyazaki, especially PRINCESS MONONOKE with its Forest Spirit and numinous flora; and the floating landscapes of LAPUTA: THE CASTLE IN THE SKY which are precursors of the "legendary floating mountains" in AVATAR. In terms of world cultural influences, the New Zealand Maori can be recognized. Weta Studios in Wellington, New Zealand is where much of AVATAR was created. At the height of the relationship between Jake Scully and Neytiri these two characters hongi, pressing their noses together and sharing each other's breath - a Maori greeting in which participants share in the breath of life, and the stranger becomes one of the people of the land.

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I guess my comments aren't allowed here, or something. They don't show. Or is there a delay?

matthewdickinson@fastmail.fm (12/19/2009, 6:11 PM )

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Good visuals are not "style over substance." You would NEVER say that at an art museum.

matthewdickinson@fastmail.fm (12/19/2009, 5:52 PM )

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Unlike one pretend-journalist commenting below, I think this film is well worth the money you might otherwise spend on spam. Visually stunning, inventive and clever, the storyline is more Dances with Wolves rather than Pocahontas. That's okay, Hollywood has been recycling the same 30 or so stories since the talkies began. Instead, this film leads where we would Cameron to lead--into a new world of spectacular effects that would have overshadowed any but a top-shelf storyline. This was my first outing to the movies in quite a while, thanks, James Cameron for making it worthwhile. "Wizofbeach," I am sure you can just go to a soupkitchen to make up for any lost meals. And maybe somebody can teach you how to write clearly too.

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I saw the midnight screening of this flick on opening day and loved it. Screw the haters.

skalar (12/19/2009, 8:32 AM )

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Early in 1998, James Cameron shamelesly declared himself the king of the world to a global audience upon picking up one of the multitudes of Oscars for a little movie called "Titanic." Now he's back and has promoted himself to Emperor of the world--more specifically, that magical, wonderful world of movies as we know it. Only this time, he's armed and ready to kick the senses out of an already jaded moviegoing public tired and numbed by the lack of imagination from the recent crop of action/adventure films of late. And as far as one's concept of imagination goes, 'Avatar' delivers it in spades.

The one thing Mr. Cameron does so well both here and in his previous films is his innate sense and awesome ability to combine the past and future, fantasy and reality, action and drama into a seamless juxtaposition that makes it all seem so visually effortless. By default his films are highly technical in nature, but there is also a high degree of an organic feel about them in the way he conceptualizes hyper-reality and fantasy and how it relates to the present.

'Avatar' is that and more. Not only is it a technological achievement in a massive scale, its also purely fanstastical, completely enjoyable, and runs as such a breakneck pace that I easily lost track of time inspite of its nearly three-hour running time.

The magic of the movies is back!

MarkA. (12/19/2009, 12:43 AM )

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Again the public is sucked in to what I consider the biggest waste of my life.Beware, this is far from what this idiot on the times states is the remaking of movies. How dare him compare this to the jazz singer and what impact it had on movies.The story line is embarassing absurd and mabye five actors in the movie and the standard guy falls for girl line with the bad guy being a colonel doing this job. I almost walked out ten times and Ive seen better porn movies for twenty dollars. I walked out before the end (two hours and forty minutes) and am mad that once again, we are misled by some stupid journalist (I have a masters in journalism myself) and equally sad with the recession, people will be flooding the theaters to only be robbed of money they could have bought food with it.This is a complete sham and if you look at all the movies this cameron made, they all are remakes and horrible. God bless america but god will not bless the guy who gave this a great review for he simply must be related to cameron for again, watch the boy in the striped pajamas or the nail, story for joey nardone, both movies with character and you will leave the movie with your mind entertained with humanity and not walk out after seeing avatar like you have been raped.

wizofbeach (12/18/2009, 4:57 PM )

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I'm looking forward to seeing this re-telling of POCAHONTAS. There's enough room on my blu ray shelf for movies as different as the low-no-budget PARANORMAL ACTIVITY and this latest Cameron budget-busting flick.

ATXeye (12/17/2009, 10:29 AM )

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Avatar is an amazing piece of cinema. Yes, the dialogue is often flat (Cameron has never been a particularly good screenwriter) and part of the CGI and 3-D is simply there for the "look what we can do" effect, but sitting through it I did get a sense that the moviegoing experience as we know it, has changed forever. In the end, Cameron and his extensive crew developed and utilized the technology to create an entire living, breathing world that you feel you were a part of for 2 hours and 40 minutes. You truly believe the Na'vi and other creatures of Pandora are real and that allows you to care about them and root for them. Without the technology, that just wouldn't happen and the story would not be the great epic that it is.

Peter_Wynn (12/17/2009, 10:06 AM )

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Cameron spends $300 million on a glorified cartoon, and the critics salivate. If the story isn't strong, if the characters aren't well-drawn, if the tale isn't worth telling, then no amount of fancy CGI animation will save it. Obviously, *I* must be missing the point here.

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The CGI makes me want to vomit. How many hundreds of millions have been spent on the advertising, like the Titanic film, to get suckers to think this is great work? What ever happened to movie making?

bern21 (12/17/2009, 8:59 AM )

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Great visuals with an overdone and predictable story? That's what video games are for. Visuals should enchance your story, not be the foundation. Haven't they learned anything from Star Wars Episode I?

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Hmm. So the film "restores a sense of wonder to the moviegoing experience that has been missing for far too long." Missing??? I haven't been missing anything.

boris8 (12/17/2009, 8:05 AM )

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Cameron is simply reusing the same formula that made TITANIC so successful. Here is the quote taken from a three-part feature on the filmmaker posted on the UK film website Flickering Myth.

%u201CI think that it was definitely a goal of Titanic to integrate a very personal, very emotional, and very intimate filmmaking style with spectacle.%u201D

He went on to add.

%u201CI think the spectacle got people%u2019s attention, got them to the theatres, and then the emotional cathartic experience of watching the film is what made the film work.%u201D


Looks like Canadian director has done the same thing with Avatar. So far it appears to be working. If you would like to read more here are the links for the three parts.

http://flickeringmyth.blogspot.com/2009/11/resurfacing-james-cameron-profile-part.html

http://flickeringmyth.blogspot.com/2009/12/resurfacing-james-cameron-profile-part.html

http://flickeringmyth.blogspot.com/2009/12/resurfacing-james-cameron-profile-part_09.html

Enjoy.

iamawriter2 (12/17/2009, 7:01 AM )

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Hitchcock's "Dial M for Murder" is a much better use of 3D as a narrative enhancer. Too bad Cameron didn't spend 1/100th the amount of time on the script as he did on the effects.

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Thanks for the heads up Kevin.
"Avatar" is definitely not into breaking new narrative ground"

All we needed to know,

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In other words, it's all style and no substance. Where's the revolution in that?

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Back to your story

AVATAR,,A $300 MILLION DOLLAR TITANIC THAT SINKS

Again the public is sucked in to what I consider the biggest waste of my life.Beware, this is far from what this idiot on the Los Angeles Times states is the remaking of movies. How dare him compare this to the jazz singer and what impact it had on movies.The story line is embarassingly absurd and mabye five actors in the movie (including Alien star Sjourney Weaver, who comes across as a male stuck in a females body and in fact, looks more like an alien than the aliens portrayed in this nightmare), and the standard guy falls for girl story line with the bad guy being a colonel doing this job.This plot has been seen a zillion times in movies when the soldiers take over Indians land to get gold and in this farce, the aliens also have nothing but bows and arrows (how original).I almost walked out ten times and Ive seen better porn movies for twenty dollars. I walked out before the end (two hours and forty minutes) and am mad that once again, we are misled by some stupid journalist (I have a masters in journalism myself) and equally sad with the recession; people will be flooding the theaters to only be robbed of money they could have bought food with it.This is a complete sham and if you look at all the movies this cameron made, they all are remakes and horrible. God bless america but god will not bless the guy who gave this a great review for he simply must be related to cameron, for again, watch the boy in the striped pajamas or the nail, story of joey nardone;both movies with character and you will leave the movie with your mind entertained with humanity and not walk out after seeing avatar like you have been raped.

wizofbeach (12/18/2009)

WHAT I DO WITH MY TIME BEING AN OLD FOLK

Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day my wife and I went into town and went into a shop. We were only in there for about 5 minutes.

When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. We went up to him and said, 'Come on man, how about giving a senior citizen a break?'

He ignored us and continued writing the ticket.

I called him a Nazi turd.

He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn tyres+. So my wife called him a shit-head.

He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first.

Then he started writing a third ticket.

This went on for about 20 minutes.

The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote.

Personally, we didn't care. We came into town by bus.

We try to have a little fun each day now that we're retired. It's important at our age.

JUDY GARLAND AND THE TAX MAN COMETH

Judy, Judy, Judy: The divine Miss Garland lived out of hotels after admitting she owed more than $4 million in arrears. When the taxman came knocking in 1967, the financially troubled songbird might have hummed a few bars of 'I Can't Give You Anything but Love

MEET YOUR ANCESTOR OF 4.4 MILLION YEARS AGO

A treasure trove of 4.4-million-year-old fossils from the Ethiopian desert is dramatically overturning widely held ideas about the early evolution of humans and how they came to walk upright, even as it paints a remarkably detailed picture of early life in Africa, researchers reported today.

The centerpiece of the diverse collection of primate, animal and plant fossils is the near-complete skeleton of a human ancestor that demonstrates our earliest forebears looked nothing like a chimpanzee or other large primate, as is now commonly believed. Instead, the findings suggest that the last common ancestor of humans and primates, which existed nearly 2 million years earlier, was a primitive creature that shared few traits with modern-day members of either group.

The findings, analyzed in a large group of studies published today in the journal Science, also indicate that our ancestors began walking upright in woodlands, not on grassy savannas as prior generations of researchers had speculated.

The discovery of the specimen called Ardipithecus ramidus "is one of the most important discoveries for the study of human evolution," said paleoanthropologist David Pilbeam of Harvard University, who was not involved in the research. "The find itself is extraordinary, as were the enormous labors that went into the reconstruction of a skeleton shattered almost beyond repair," he said in an e-mailed statement.

"It is so rare to get a more or less complete skeleton," said paleoanthropologist Andrew Hill of Yale University. "In the entire course of human evolution, at least until you get to Neanderthals, there are only three to four available. We can always tell so much more from a skeleton" than from the jawbones and skulls that are more commonly found.

The fossils described in the new studies were found 15 years ago in the Afar Triangle of Ethiopia by a team led by paleoanthropologist Tim White of UC Berkeley. But White and his team have been relatively closemouthed about the fossils, and other researchers -- some of whom have accused him of hoarding the fossils for his own use -- have been eagerly awaiting more information.

Today, they are getting a surfeit: Eleven papers by 47 authors, and a similar number of short summaries prepared by each paper's authors.

The fossils were found in a layer of sediment sandwiched between two layers of volcanic ash, each dating from 4.4 million years ago -- indicating that the fossils are also of that age.

In addition to the nearly complete fossil specimen of the female primate, which investigators have dubbed Ardi, the team found more than 100 fossils from 36 other members of the same species.

"These fossils are much more important than Lucy," the 3.2-million-year-old specimen of Australopithecus afarensis that was found in the Afar desert in the 1970s, said paleoanthropologist Alan Walker of Pennsylvania State University, who was not involved in the research. "The reason is that when Lucy was found, we already knew the major features of Australopithecus from fossils found in the 1940s. . . . These fossils are of a completely unknown creature, and are much stranger and more primitive than Australopithecus."

The White team also found fossils of 29 species of birds, primarily small ones like doves, lovebirds, mousebirds, passerines and swifts, as well as several that were previously unknown. Animal fossils included 20 new species of small mammals, including shrews, bats, rodents, hares and small carnivores, as well as larger animals, including baboons, colobus monkeys and spiral-horned antelopes.

Fossilized wood, seed and other plant remains indicate the presence of hackberry, fig and palm trees. Collectively, these finds indicate that the environment was more humid and cooler than it is today, and contained grassy woodland with forest patches.

Today, the Afar is a desert. But go back in a time machine and "4.4 million years ago, this was really a different world," White said. "We look up in the trees and we see that they are full of monkeys. We look around on the ground and we see that there are a lot of kudus. And we see an occasional hyena. And we see elephants and we see lots of small mammals. And we know what all of these . . . are because we have found evidence of them."

This whole collection of data "gives us information we have never had before about human evolution," said paleoanthropologist C. Owen Lovejoy of Kent State University, one of the primary authors of the papers. "The whole savanna theory goes out the window in terms of it being the explanation for upright walking. . . . And the idea that we evolved from something like a chimpanzee also goes out the window."

Ardi stood about 47 inches tall and probably weighed 110 pounds. Many researchers had previously believed that such an early ancestor would, like modern chimps, be a knuckle-walker, using the knuckles for support while moving on all fours. Instead, Ardi appears to have climbed on all fours on branches, but walked upright on the ground. Her feet, like those of monkeys but not chimps, were designed more for propulsion than for grasping.

Her face had a projecting muzzle, giving her an ape-like appearance, but many features of her skull, such as the ridge above the eye socket, are quite different than those of chimpanzees. Her brain is about the same size as Lucy's.

Her hands lacked many of the specializations that allow modern-day African apes to swing, hang and easily move through trees. Those specializations apparently evolved in large primates after they separated from the last common ancestor with humans more than 6 million years ago. (Few fossils of such primates are available because they lived primarily in forests, which are not conducive to preservation of bone.)

The finds "are turning evolution on its head," Lovejoy said.

The most controversial aspects of the papers involve the authors' -- particularly Lovejoy's -- interpretations of what the fossils say about behavior. Of particular importance, he said, is that the sizes of males and females were about the same, and that the specimens do not have large, sharp canine teeth. Both findings suggest that the fierce, often violent competition among males for females in heat that characterizes gorillas and chimpanzees was absent in Ardipithecus.

That implies, Lovejoy concluded, that the males were beginning to enter into monogamous relationships with females and devoted a greater proportion of their time to caring for their young than did earlier ancestors.

"This is a restatement of Owen Lovejoy's ideas going back almost three decades, which I found unpersuasive then and still do," Pilbeam said. Hill was more blunt, calling Lovejoy's speculation "patent nonsense."

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WIZARD OF OZ...RESTORED VERSION

Numerous myths and legends have sprouted over the last seven decades regarding MGM's production No. 1060 -- better known as the beloved musical fantasy "The Wizard of Oz" -- like the tall tale that the studio wanted to cast Shirley Temple, not Judy Garland, as Dorothy.

"That's one of those legends that have gotten so blown up," says "Oz" historian John Fricke ("The Wizard of Oz: An Illustrated Companion to a Timeless Movie Classic"). "The Temple thing . . . never entered the 'maybe' stage.' "

"The Wizard of Oz," based on the L. Frank Baum children's classic, is celebrating its 70th birthday. Warner Bros. has done a beautiful new digital restoration that will be screened tonight in theaters around the country. On Tuesday, Warner Home Video is releasing a lavish collector's edition of this restoration in DVD and Blu-ray Hi-Def.
The magic doesn't dissipate," says Fricke. "I have been asked about how many times I have seen the movie, and it must be over 125 times. But I know 4-year-olds who have seen it more because they have seen it every day."

Dorothy, the Scarecrow (Ray Bolger), the Tin Man (Jack Haley), the Cowardly Lion (Bert Lahr), the Wizard (Frank Morgan) and Toto (Terry), says Fricke, "get to be your friends. . . . You want to go down the yellow brick road with Judy and those buddies of hers because they would take care of you."
The two things that made "The Wizard of Oz" a reality were the success in December 1937 of Walt Disney's first feature-length animated film, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs," which proved audiences were clamoring for musical fantasies, and Garland's hitting it big that year with her valentine to Clark Gable, the tune "Dear Mr. Gable."
tune "Dear Mr. Gable."

"Arthur Freed wanted to graduate from lyricist to producer and wanted to find a vehicle for Judy," says Fricke. "Mervyn LeRoy is the producer of credit on 'Wizard' . . . but the more one looks at any of the production paperwork that survives, so much of the film in terms of creative was Arthur Freed."

Even before MGM head Louis B. Mayer brought LeRoy over from Warner Bros. to replace the late producer Irving Thalberg, Freed had sought suggestions for casting, composers and other creative talent. Practically every actor he recommended is in the film. Bolger was originally cast as the Tin Man; Buddy Ebsen was the Scarecrow. Those roles were eventually switched, but Ebsen dropped out because he was allergic to the Tin Man's makeup.
Freed pushed for composers Harold Arlen and E.Y. Harburg, who were the perfect choice, creating such standards as "If I Only Had a Brain" and Oscar winner "Somewhere Over the Rainbow."
At first glance, Victor Fleming may have seemed an odd choice to direct a musical because of his reputation as a burly man's man. He directed such movies as "Red Dust" and "Captains Courageous." "Victor Fleming was not against the idea of doing 'Oz' because at that point he had become a father for a second time and he wanted to do 'Oz' in honor of his kids," says Fricke.


"Wizard," which was running behind in pre-production, had been a revolving door for directors. "Norman Taurog did some tests and then was taken off the picture. Richard Thorpe was on it for two weeks and was released," says Fricke. "George Cukor came in and changed the makeup and costumes for Judy, the Wicked Witch and Scarecrow."
Fleming was on the film for about four months, shooting all of the Technicolor sequences before he went off to direct "Gone With the Wind."

"King Vidor came in and shot on it for three weeks," says Fricke. "He shot virtually all of the Kansas scenes, and he did some Technicolor retakes."

When the film opened in August 1939, it was uniformly praised, save for the New Republic, the New Yorker and McCall's. "MGM trade-screened the movie on Aug. 9 in Los Angeles and New York, and the Hollywood Citizen News reported that critics were still crying when the lights went up," says Fricke.

The new digital restoration of "Oz" is as close as one can get to the experience of seeing the classic in theaters 70 years ago.
Warner Home Video had digitally restored the film for the 2005 DVD release using the original nitrate negative, which has been stored at the George Eastman House archive for years. “At that time we thought it was absolutely spectacular,” says George Feltenstein, senior vice president for theatrical catalog marketing.




But when it became time to do the high-definition Blu-ray version, “what we didn’t realize was that the technology had improved so dramatically in the interim four years, if we had used what we did for the prior transfer, it would have been OK, but it wouldn’t have been breathtaking. It would have been half-baked. Thankfully, the opinion of the company was that we have to do this full throttle the best it can possibly be.”
For this restoration, Warner was able to locate 1939 approved nitrate print that gave them a map as what the true colors of the film were. “In finding the 1939 nitrate Technicolor print, we got a different look for the film than we previously had,” says Ned Price, vice president of mastering at Warner Bros. Technicolor Operations.

“It had much more midrange colors,” says Price. “It was no so contrasty and you could see much more into the shadow detail. It was less primary color. It was more earth tones and the color didn’t pop as we had it made it previously. It was very colorful but not as colorful as the negative lead us to believe.”
Using a pin-registered Northlight film scanner, they were able to scan the three separate camera negatives at 8K, a much higher resolution than previously possible. “The information allowed us to get not only finer picture detail but much better grain capture."

The color correction computer package they used “is a much more powerful color correction tool,” says Price. “It can manipulate color much better and provides better color imagery.”

And for the first time, viewers can see more detail on Toto, the Wicked Witch’s hairy mole, the Tin Man’s rivet in the middle of his brow and Dorothy’s acne.

-- Susan King

WARNER BROTHERS PLANS 70TH ANNIVERSARY OF WIZARD OF OZ MOVIE

Anthony Jones - Celebrity News Service Contributor
New York, NY (CNS) - Warner Bros. is celebrating the 70th anniversary of "The Wizard of Oz" with events that are anything but munchkin-sized. Among the many special events taking place to celebrate the anniversary of the American classic include the release of brand new Ultimate Collector's Editions, a one-night-only event in theaters, and a special Emerald Gala.

On Wednesday, September 23rd, over 400 theaters across the country will present "The Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary Hi-Def Event" with a newly remastered digital presentation of "The Wizard of Oz." The special also includes a special introduction from classic film historian Robert Osborne and interviews and behind-the-scenes footage in the featurette, "We're Off to See the Wizard."

On Thursday, September 24th, Manhattan's Tavern on the Green will host the Emerald Gala, which will include performances by Ashanti and Lorna Luft, daughter of Judy Garland. The entire grounds will transform into the Emerald, complete with a winding Yellow Brick Road. Members of the national tour company of the Wizard of Oz will also appear to perform acts, as well as five of the original actors who played the "munchkins" in the 1939 film.

On Saturday, September 26th, Warner Bros. will host a special, star-studded screening of "The Wizard of Oz" in New York City. It will take place at the Alice Tully Hall as part of this year's New York Film Festival.

The events all lead up to the September 29th release of "The Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's Editions" which will release on DVD and for the first time ever on high definition Blu-ray. The collector's editions will be packed with bonus features and collectibles.

"Warner Home Video is proud to be part of the year-long celebration of this cinematic treasure. When I viewed this Blu-ray version, it was like seeing and hearing the film for the very first time. You're brought into Dorothy's adventure so profoundly that all the endearing Oz characters and unforgettable songs resound as never before," said Ron Sanders, President,Warner Home Video


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Hey again. ....can you give me the direct addy to your blog? Also, i thought you would be interested in this: my sister went to a carnival up by Saratoga Springs, N.Y. and here included is a picture she took with the caption on her facebook page:"Oldest surviving munchkin from the Wizard of Oz putting fire in his mouth. He was doing this over and over all nite long."



This is submitted by Brigid of Amy Heckman photo of Saratoga Springs Carnival

MICHAEL JACKSON COMMENTS

Michael Jackson 1958-2009 Memorial Comments :

9 hours ago
Lulita01
132 posts R.I.P Michael
Watching this made me realize that he was a big kid and that he did every thing with innocence in his heart. Love you Michael. You must watch. 5/5
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wizardofbeach
50 posts HE DID EVERYTHING IN INNOCENCE INCLUDING SLEEPING WITH INNOCENT LITTLE BOYS AFTER GETTING THEM HIGH..ALOT OF OTHER INNOCENT MEN ARE IN JAIL FOR DOING THE SAME INNOCENT THING AS MICHAEL BOGUS JACKSON

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39 min. ago
baybiie-noonoo
61 posts Yes, he was a big kid thats why he had a bond sort of thing with children, i hate it when people talk about pediphillia and assosiate him with it because he was just a kid
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2028 posts Are you serious? He was a 50-year-old man for crying out loud.
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1 Day ago
auna
280 posts What A DISGRACE!!
People crying for a guy who got an overdose.The guy was reckless and didn't think about his kids.He only thought of himself and got you to spend a lot of money buying his albums.You are gone..who cares.I won't be stupid to pay 100 to see your concert or your funeral.If you people need to weep, try for a real hero..your local fireman or doctor who everyday does miracles for very very less compensation .Do not venerate these false idols known as Artists, especially Jacko.
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wizardofbeach
50 posts auaa is absolute correct and frankly, its sad that this country is made up of exactly what she says. I couldnt have said it better but again, some people think charles manson or hitler were geniuses.

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11 hours ago
filmfever
125 posts If you want to blame anyone then blame the psychotic, money grubbing doctors who killed this man. Stop hating on this man.
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11 hours ago
filmfever
125 posts Michael was a credit to the world. There are many useless rich, greedy people in the world and he gave away much of his fortune to help the less fortunate. I guarantee that there are a legion of people who benefited personally from him that would disagree with your comments. I personally know a young child who went to his ranch before dying of cancer and that was the BEST day of her life. She didn't have much of her life but that day made up for her suffering. If you don't know what you're talking about then please don't speak. This man did more than any of these singers, actors, rock stars and rappers combined. He is my HERO.
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11 hours ago
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19 posts i doubt he overdosed. I would be looking at the doctor for having mj lay down with chest pains and giving him a demeral shot. Chest pains indicate heart attack, demeral slows the heart down. I want to know where he got his liscense. A doctors wrong call killed mj not a overdose
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33 min. ago
baybiie-noonoo
61 posts I agree with filmfever
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9 hours ago
tolfree09
38 posts LMAO
haters of wacko jacko is easy to find i know loads of people that hate michael jackson i hated his music i thought it was shit and i even know people that dont know who he is and i wish i didnt know him because i hate him and wish i never heard his name and i don't like pedophile's and you say wacko jacko has alot of fans? oh so all those fans idolize and love him you people are pedophile lovers you sick freaky people and if you ask me he aint the best artist in the world if anythink he would be on the bottom of my list of best artist.
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39 min. ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts THE BEST ARTIST IN THE WORLD IS ME AND I ONLY WEAR A JOCK STRAP

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37 min. ago
baybiie-noonoo
61 posts Why comment on this then just to shout your hatred? what a waste of time :/ all your doing is saying you hate it so much, why even click on the link to this then :/?
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43 min. ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts News Flash,,NEW COLLEGE COURSE OFFERED
NEWS FLASH..
New college course offered..Moon walking one..crotch one two and three..squealing one, two, three, four..how to turn white or black,(ten credits)..drugs and how to use them (ten credits)..Molestation (thirty credits..donating sperm (fifty credits)..paying off parents (100 credits)..having Los angeles pay for your funeral (35 credits)..gold casket (one credit)
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1 hours ago
Xallodea
51 posts Tsk
Look at yourselves, really. He passed on, And you all are still arguing over him and his past. can't you all just leave him alone, keep your fricking thoughts in your head and watch the documentary in PEACE?!?
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baybiie-noonoo
61 posts My thought exactley, can't people repect the dead? not only the dead but such a infulnsial man, its truly media gone crazy
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41 min. ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts i respect the dead espeically after this freak died.

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wizardofbeach
50 posts I BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS
I dont believe that MIchael the crotch Jackson molested little boys..I dont believe that MIchael the molester Jackson took drugs..I dont believe that MIchael the nose Jackson had any plastic surgery..I dont believe that Michael caucasian Jackson was black..I dont believe that Wacko Jackson was weird..I dont believe that MIchael the sperm Jackson didnt donate sperm..but one thing I do believe in,,SANTA CLAUS
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274 posts Micheal Jackson
I'm sorry, but I really don't think I can bring myself to even watch this one.. ..seeing everyone talk about poor pitiful michael and how he was a tortured soul and such a musical genius and loving parent and what a shame that such a humanitarian passed is about enough to make me sick.. ..how can anyone consider such a wealthy person who had EVERYTHING HE WANTED JUST THE WAY HE WANTED WHENEVER HE WANTED be that tortured.. ..he might have had a rough ubringing, but so has just about everyone else to some degree, and that didn't cause ALL of them to never grow up and repeat the same mistakes and even make them worse.. ..as far as musical genius, what instrument did he play that stirred such an overwelming change in the world.. ..he was most famous for moonwalking and grabbing his crotch.. ..he didn't write all those songs.. ..as for loving parent.. ..what kind of loving parent dangles their child off a balcony wrapped in a blanket for the paparazzi to take pictures of.. ..if he was such a humanitarian that believed all people should get along and be happy and proud of who they are and the differrences that made them who they were, why did he try so hard to make hinself look white.. ..was he ashamed of his heritage.. ..he might have been abused as a child and beaten.. ..nig deal.. I was abused and beaten as a child, but I didn't grow up to abuse children.. ..the media made him who he was.. ..just another spoiled rich kid that got what he wanted.. ..and then he didn't even want that.. ..and I find that it's really a sad statement of the state of things that for days now, all I hear on the news is it's such a pity that he's gone.. ..there are more important things to be said in the news than this crap.. ..I can see it being mentioned and possibly mulled over a bit.. ..people are dying needlessly all over the world in more terrible situations than this.. ..how much mention do they get in the news..not much.. ..he most likely was a pedophile.. ..one of the worst things you can be in life.. ..and what do we do..we immortalize him and praise his name like he was some sort of savior of mankind.. ..all I can say is poor poor michael .. ..I guess he can't play in neverland anymore.. ..get on with life people.. we got bigger problems..
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wizardofbeach
50 posts Michael tortured Jackson should to be my idol until JAKROK

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sexydime11212
15 posts I Love U MJ Rest In Pace
for all you ppl down talking Mj he was a great guy, a loving man who love kids an ppl all around the world.. those of you saying he was a child molester have no brain he was not proven guilty of anything, how do you know the parents wasn't the ones telling the kids to say he molested them?? ppl are money hungry dogs.. i have 3 boys my own an if anyone of them was to get molested no kind of money would pay for there innocents.. that's just something to think about.. overall he was a musical genius that gave so much to childern's hospitals an hungry kids in need.. Michael you are the "KING OF POP" an no matter what the media or "HATERS" say you will always be missed.. enjoy your sleep with god.. Luv you always
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Jakrok
274 posts most people who are guilty of things try to give back where they think they have taken..also he was never proven guilty because no trial was finished.. paying off settlements does not prove innocence.. in fact it's more often than not an admission of guilt..as far as the musical genius part.. he didn't write most of the songs he was famous for.. he just recorded them..(kind of makes you wonder what he was really thinking when he recorded PYT pretty young thing)..I'm sorry, but I just do not see Michael Jackson as the iconic figure you all seem to.. ..He was just a guy with problems.. that usually got solved by having bundles of money thrown at them..
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wizardofbeach
50 posts O.J. SIMIPSON WASNT PROVED GUILTY EITHER AND WE ALL KNOW HE WAS

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Empire X
7 posts WOW!
I find it so funny that all the haters are talking about how much they hate him but watched his memorial and find the time to post about someone they so called hate so much. Ha ha ha. It's so amazing that some people have to put others down to make themselves feel good. I also didn't know so many people was there at his home to watch his every move to know with out a doubt he was a pedophile. Gotta love the human race.
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wizardofbeach
50 posts YOUR RIGHT, WE SHOULD LET EVERY CRIMINAL OUT OF JAIL AND PRAY FOR THEM AND SHOW FORGIVENESS. WHO CARES IF THEY MURDER, RAPE, SODOMIZE AND BE A MIKIE BABY JACKSON,,AFTER ALL, AS YOU SAY,,OTHERS HAVE TO PUT OTHERS DOWN TO FEEL GOOD..

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10 posts Rip
I WILL REMEBER U I WILL NEVER FORGET U U R MANY PPL HEROES.


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130 posts R I P
WE WILL MISS YOU
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wizardofbeach
50 posts THANK YOU FOR MISSING ME BROWNSUGAR, YOUR SO SWEET. THANKS

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RevJoe
122 posts 8/10
"Wow! Look at you folks. Just going at it. Here is the fixs.
(1)Michael EVEN said that he liked to have boys sleeping with him on HIS bed.
(2)Take a good look at that LONG hallway going towards his bedroom. He had a camera just above his doorway looking down the hallways witch also had a door that locked from the inside. Plus NO adults were allowed even near his bedroom when he had the kids in his room. He even said that. REMEMBER!
(3)Now if that was you or I being nailed for being a child molester. We wouldn't have seen the light of day for years. Stars are human to and they should get the same kind of time and treatment like us normal folks get. But their STARS and they have alot of money to pay folks off and that is what Michael did. PAY everyone off so they dropped everything.
(4)But i would have to be honest here. As an artist? He was one of the best there is (WAS) but as a humanbeing" I believe that Michael was a very good BOY locked into a man's body. He never had his youth. That was taking alway from him very early in his childhood by his abusive father. It really is sad that most of the folks in his life were only there for the money."Note; Just look at what is happening now. Its all about the money. Those doctors are nothing but money stealing dogs. Why didn't anyone of them doctors stop what was going on. They knew that he was abusing his meds so why were they still giving him them? Money is the answer to that question. They made alot of money from Michael. Everyone used and abused him since has birth. So it only comes to reason why Michael is Michael. He was formed into this by so many people in his life. He was wicked in music as well as art but he never was allowed to just be himself so he got lost into his act. He became what everyone wanted him to become. But he lift himself out. So in the end? Michael wasn't Michael he was just a troubled soul that was lost in Neverland for real. He lived a make believe life. I blame that on his Greedy family and the doctors and the folks that had anything to do with him. Its all about the money and everyone just didn't care for Michael and i truly believe that he knew that himself. So it really isn't my place to judge Michael. But i am only telling you what Michael said himself. So put 2 and 2 together. Do i blame Michael. No! I blame all them folks that took Michaels life alway from Michael so they can mold him into their reality. So Michael make up his own.
(5)"Now! Here is a question for you all? If you all don't believe that Michael isn't a trouble soul then WHY is he haunting Neverland?? Having anyone of you folks seen that video that CNN did. Only troubled souls stay alround. Right?? So something is keeping him here. What that something is. No one seems to know..RIP Michael. But the truth is if he really is haunting Neverland then lets face the truth here folks. He's not at peace. There is unfinish business and HE is the only one that can tell you all what that business is. So all you ghost busters get off your butts and head for Neverland and get the rest of us folks some EVPS and photos of are dear Michael. I for one would love to see them. Have a great 24 folks. By the way this film is very good. I give it an 8/10
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wizardofbeach
50 posts RIP means ROCKER IS PERVERTED

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8 hours ago
nana351972
75 posts So What!
To all you people with the bad comments about Michael, YOU ARE NOT GOD! ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE. and so will you. LOVE HIM AND I LIKE HIS MUSIC, RIP MJ
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wizardofbeach
50 posts This is god speaking through me

MICHAEL JACKSON WAS PURE SCUM

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10 hours ago
KidAtHeart
46 posts Michael Jackson
Boo Hoo! The man kicked the bucket, so what, whats the big deal. If I was famous and was accused of touching little boys, would everyone cry when I croaked.
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mateo1979
5 posts Not taking up for child molesters, but I really don't think that he did it. He lived in a world where he made his own rules and he thought what he was doing was the right thing to do. He did make some mistakes that seemed perverted to us who are normal, but I don't think that he sexually molested the kids.. Any hoo, if I was in the parents of the children my kids ain't spending time alone with any man I don't care how rich or famous they were, and if my child said someone touched them or anything close to that, you couldn't pay me off, no amount of money changes what happened, I would fight until I felt justice.. Think about it.. Could someone touch your child and pay you to shut the hell up??
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59 min. ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts I TOUCHED MYSELF AS A LITTLE BOY AND MOLESTED MYSELF AND EVEN GOT A RESTRAINING ORDER TO STAY AWAY FROM MYSELF AND NOW I STAND ON THE CORNER SLIDING ON BANANAS AND GRABBING MY CROTCH ALL DAY AND SQUEALING AND WEAR MY MOMS DRESS AND MAKEUP

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filmfever
125 posts It Was Beautiful
He truly was a tortured soul. The doctors around him were reckless and irresponsible. I'll even go as far to say they are enablers and killers. There's no reason why this man should have access to diprivan in his place of residence. He was suffering from many ailments including insomnia and if he had half-way decent doctors around him then they could've got to the root of his problems and found a way to eradicate his body pains and insomnia. Those doctors should be thrown under the jail. Michael R.I.P. Mike's children are beautiful and I know he would NEVER do anything that would have taken him away from his children. He loved them FAR too much. That's all I have to say.
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tinker-bell
5096 posts jackson was a junkie. period. the drugs he ingested or injected were not forced on him
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filmfever
125 posts Tinkerbell, I don't doubt that he become obsessed with some medications but you need prescriptions or authorizations for these particular medications especially diprivan. Just because someone asks for something doesn't mean a doctor should just fork it over. That's just irresponsible and reckless. Michael had no idea what he was doing or how close he was to death.
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11 hours ago
tinker-bell
5096 posts but that's the point .. jackson hired doctors who had been drummed out of the profession. and i believe he hired these doctors because they were unscrupulous enough to hand over anything and everything he wanted or thought he needed. ultimately, it was a choice HE made

edit by the way, diprivan is only used in hospitals and not sold or carried in pharmacies for dispensing .. which means he would have had to have obtained it illegally. further, jackson would be classified as having a drug seeking behaviour disorder, which means he would be admitted to detox .. but he avoided two interventions by family and dr deepak chopra. now this is not a man who put his children first or cared much about his lifespan
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11 hours ago
filmfever
125 posts Tinkerbell, Regardless of what you say, he broke records, sold 750 million records. Is the only artist ever to have 5 number 1 hits on an album. Elvis and the beatles didn't sell 750 in the run on this earth. They had to die and/or dismantle as a group and allow decades to pass before getting to the 1 billion mark. Michael was alive and was almost there at the 1 billion mark in sales. THAT'S AMAZING. He has more fans than haters and the fans are what matter. The haters are so miniscule and small in numbers that they're hard to find lol.
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11 hours ago
filmfever
125 posts Tinkerbell, well I respect your opinion and see where you're coming from but those doctors need to pay for breaking the ethics code as medical practitioners because at the end of the day they authorized a man's death. That's just simply wrong. I choose to look at the good he did. I don't feel that he killed himself. I feel he was killed due to malpractice. Even the nurse who was interviewed had the decency to deny Michael diprivan. These doctors should not be allowed to practice ever again. Well it was nice chatting, Peace out.
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10 hours ago
jericho30
2071 posts the haters are hard to find? really? I suppose it was one of his fans that gave him the name Wacko Jacko? I will agree that he is probably one of the most talented artists of the last 30 years, but he is no god like his fans try to build him up to be..I admit that none of us will ever know for a fact whether or not he molested those children..the facts point more towards the belief that he did..no matter any more. The fact of the matter is he hired ostracized doctors to pump him full of drugs, he was in fact a druggie..the media and his family need to quit blaming his death on his doctors, they were doing what they were paid to do..if he wanted good doctors he would have hired good doctors..he did not want them, he wanted doctors who were going to dope him up
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11 hours ago
Mcgee08
73 posts The Man..The Legend
To all the haters try selling over 750 million worth of records at a mere $1 per and then hate. To those who want to hate the way he died, take that emmy from heath Ledger cause he didnt deserve it. The guy was in The dark night for about 15 minutes total and the movie was 3 hours long now tell me how he deserves that. Michael was and is the greatest entertainer period. No one did more for human suffering than this guy and he even brought together whites, blacks, and even hispanics to make we are the world. The guy is iconic and death is only the option when you have finished your goals and well it took God to end MJs comeback not haters.
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12 hours ago
karmelscream
4 posts GIVE IT A REST ALREADY
OK, THE GUY WAS NO SAINT BUT THERE ARE ALOT OF THING AND DOOR THAT HE OPEN THAT WITHOUT HIM PROBABLY WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. WHY IS THAT YOU DWELL ON THE BAD THAT YOU THINK THAT THE GUY HAVE DONE BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW, I DONT KNOW AND THE PEOPLES THAT REALLY KNOW AINT REALLY RELIABLE ARE THEY. SO LETS LETS SAY GOODBYE TO A POP ICON AND STOP YOU WHINING AND GROANING OVER SOMETHING HE DID OR DIDNT DO.
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts I AGREE, ADOLPH HITLER SHOLDNT BE CRITICIZED FOR KILLING OVER 20 MILLION HUMANS BUT PRAISED FOR MAKING GERMANY A WORLD POWER AFTER WORLD WAR ONE..HEIL MICHAEL

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12 hours ago
CRAIG BEZ
100 posts Jackson
i dont care what anybody says about mj he brought music to a whole new high forget all the the .. that went on he's a great peformer and singer,smooth criminal what a tune
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12 hours ago
flutterby
31 posts R.I.P.
I too was one of those ignorant ones believing what I heard in the press without taking into consideration that I should look deeper. Since MJs death, I have learned so much more about him, his feelings and out look on life. I understand him wanting a childhood which he never had the privilege to enjoy as most children and if you think about it, anyone with his popularity and money that is around kids enough will get accused of the unthinkable as he did. I also understand why he settled the first time accused , wanting to put it behind him. I am so glad he fought the sencond accuser in court.

R.I.P. Michael Jackson
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts I AGREE, SO NEAT HE GOT OFF AGAIN TO KILL HIMSELF BEING THE GREAT DAD HE WAS..I LOVED HIS LIPSTICK, EYE SHADOW AND OF COURSE THAT NOSE AND MAKEUP,,LOVELY..HE TURNED INTO ELIZABETH TAYLOR MEETS DIANA ROSS

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13 hours ago
starry118
25 posts Rest In Peace Michael
I'm glad the family had this memorial service to allow his fans to say goodbye..there were some very moving moments. I am glad I watched.
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15 hours ago
jusjerry215
136 posts Pure Junk..
Why would anyone put this junk on here, he was at his best when he was black, after all the kids that came forward years later and all the money he spent getting rid of these little boys it's amazing how the media and people can idolize this pervert. It also amazes me on just how quickly people forget what he'd became. I refuse to watch anything that tries to erase the truth and replace it with pure junk.
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts WOW, JUSJERRY HAS A BRAIN

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16 hours ago
cannonballrun
9 posts Good Bye MIKE
Mjs daughter paris catherine made me cry she was innocent.
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38 min. ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts HIS DAUGHTER IS REALLY A MAN

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15 hours ago
loenor
37 posts I Can See It In Todays World
People in our world need an idol to worship, Jackson fits the bill right now. Someone else will come along. Hewas a good artist, but that is about all..just a guy, not a god..the proof is that he is dead, and will always be dead. I feel for his children ( well he did raise them anyway and they thought of him as their father). But just remember that he made no real contribution to the human condition. Time for the world to move on, well for the media to move on to the next victim anyway. Sorry Jacko, it was a rough ride from your Father to your fans and most of all the media..really kinda messed you up.
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11 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts wow, this idiot loenor speaks of worshiping a idol,,what a nutcase,,mabye he is from the roman, greek or mayan era..dear moron, nobody needs any idol to worship but frankly, learn to love themselves so they can love others,,its clear jackson hated himself thus killed himself trying to hide from that very person he hated by doing drugs he did,,wait till the autopsy come out and lets see how much you idolize a drug addict who killed himslf and could care less about his kids doing so .

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16 hours ago
Tmos22
129 posts This Should Be In The Comedy Section
Hilarious watch

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18 hours ago
goddessofissues
88 posts Chill Ppl
You know what. Janet said it right. "To you all he was a music Icon, But to us he is family!!" Major difference in how feelings go in here.

RIP Michael and thanks so much for all your blessed talent.
and how wonderful you were to your children and to how much your
family truly loves you.
i hope all good things come to everyone close to you.
and you stay near no matter how far away you may be.

I also give my heart to all of your family.
They are strong people. And will never ever forget you.
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11 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts this janet that goddess speaks of hated his guts and reported him long time ago of his molesting kids because she felt she had to do the right thing,,Brooke Shields is another hypocrite who years ago on larry king show blasted the freak for being a freak and said that our king jackson of croth abandoned her and she felt he was weird then.. where was elizabeth taylor in all this anyway since the king of molesting tried to look like her..

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16 hours ago
sharee21
242 posts Michael Jackson
R.I.P Michael Jackson. My family and I will miss you, thank god we have your music to listen to.
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts REST IN PEACE AND DONT COME BACK. GOD BLESS RAY CHARLES

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1 Day ago
Emliebes
24 posts Michael
Wow. You all completely have NO respect.
What if that was you in his situation - he never did ANYTHING wrong. That's what's so .. up about this all.
It's rumors and people making a bunch of .. up and that's what turned into this HUGE deal! People have nothing better to do with their lives than find innocent people to lay the next rumor on.
And these kids parents are all MONEY HUNGRY!

He honestly did nothing wrong. I wish you could all see and realize that.
What a horrible way to live. I would have committed suicide long ago if I was in his shoes. How horrible.

Just leave the man alone now. There's no reason you should continue listening and feeding these*** lies to everyone else. He's gone now. He had to endure a lot of .. None of you even realize that. Just leave him alone now. He's gone. Are you happy now?
I hope you all burn in hell!


Rest In Peace Michael!
His legacy will live on. And there's nothing ANYONE can do about that!!

Telling members to burn in hell is a little over the top, don't you think?
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts CHARLES MANSON NEVER DID ANYTHNG WRONG OR NEITHER DID ADOLPH HITLER,, LET THEM REST IN PEACE THOUGH A DEAD PERSON DOESNT REST,,FOR THEY DONT BREATHE..NOW THATS A FACT LIKE MIKIE BEING NUTS

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21 hours ago
a loner
5 posts A Memory
The first song that i remember hearing was by michael jackson and from then on i liked his music not as a die hard fan, but i liked it. but he had something about him which many aspects the world lacks, innocence, one could guess thats why he loved children, because they have that same innocence, but in this perverted world that we live in, whenever you put a man with a child it is taken as pedophilia. He was a great man who loved all of his fans and people in general. So in this time, lets try to remember what good he did and the music he made despite any and all accusations made against him you can't blame him of anything he was just misunderstood R.I.P Michael Jackson 1958-2009
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24 hours ago
bradley1
55 posts Bradley
ENYBODY MADE JOKES ABOUT HIM WHEN HE WAS ALIVE NOW HES DEAD ITS AW ATS A SIN WTF? IS THIS WORLD ABOUT TIME IT TAKES U TAE READ IS ABOOT 20 PPL HAVE DIED FS
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts WE WILL STILL MAKE JOKES ABOUT THE WACKO WHEN DEAD FOR HIS CAREER HAS BEEN DEAD FOR OVER TWENTY FIVE YEARS..

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20 hours ago
Ulyty
31 posts Redickulous
I cant believe that this accused child molester, twice might I add gets all this publicity for his death what about all the other celebs that have died, Billy Mays deservs more attention than M.J.
And how about all of our troops over seas that die they deserve even more attention.
OH yeah did I mention that Micheal was accused two times of child molestation
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1 hours ago
wizardofbeach
50 posts MICHAEL THE CATHOLIC PRIEST IN DRAG, WAS NOT CONVICTED OF BEING A CHILD MOLESTER..HOWEVER..HE HAD TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS TO PAY OFF ONE VICTIM AND THE JURY IN THE SECOND ONE SAID THEY MADE A MISTAKE AFTER HE GOT OFF THE SECOND TIME MEANING NO QUESTION HE GOT AWAY WITH IT AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED TIMES..